tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post6071305425827774109..comments2023-06-01T10:09:37.117-04:00Comments on Please Kern: Beware of PCI - Discussion #7lorem ipsum (aka Prof. Bosler)http://www.blogger.com/profile/09740226605485318167noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-74686813968068912672008-04-18T13:02:00.000-04:002008-04-18T13:02:00.000-04:00Oh thumbnails, you are the bane on collegiate exis...Oh thumbnails, you are the bane on collegiate existence. Well, not really, I understand that they are very important, and I usually do not go with my initial ideas when working on a project; I like many of prior comments feels like the number assigned is sometimes unattainable. I understand that our professors just want us to expand our minds and think outside of the box, and I know all of us CD Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-7346462228051879932008-04-11T21:57:00.000-04:002008-04-11T21:57:00.000-04:00Thumbnails are certainly necessary to hash out you...Thumbnails are certainly necessary to hash out your ideas. Whenever I prematurely jump on the computer I definitely find myself wasting a lot of time without a clear direction in mind. <BR/><BR/>In my case I also feel like I need to write out in words what I want to say/what I want to accomplish and thoroughly discuss it with a few people. If I don't have a very clear understanding I feel I'm Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-7613825520536303092008-04-01T15:36:00.000-04:002008-04-01T15:36:00.000-04:00I think the idea of generating thumbnails is great...I think the idea of generating thumbnails is great. As mentioned by you and everyone else who has commented, they are great for generating ideas. Im much better and faster at getting the ideas out of my head on paper, rather than the computer. <BR/><BR/>Now, for every positive, there are negatives. There are many things that I think are terrible for thumnails. I HATE when there are set numbers ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-49799394681889740912008-04-01T12:45:00.000-04:002008-04-01T12:45:00.000-04:00Thumbnails...where do I start? As much as I hate t...Thumbnails...where do I start? As much as I hate them, they're just as much help to me. A while back, I heard this designer on TLC say that, more often than not, your first five ideas are not going to be used or "second-glanced" at. And that's true. A lot of times, the first few ideas that a designer spits out, are the obvious. A lot of times it takes more in-depth thinking to get at that answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-60085136513719678162008-03-20T15:05:00.000-04:002008-03-20T15:05:00.000-04:00When I first saw the "Beware of PCI" discussion p...When I first saw the "Beware of PCI" discussion post my first inclination was that there was some kind of newly discovered Super-STD exclusive to Kutztown. After I realized that was not the case there was a sigh of relief until I found out it was actually about thumbnails, which have the potential to be just as painful. Any time a new project is assigned there is an undeniable sense of being Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-48632307248924329442008-03-20T14:03:00.000-04:002008-03-20T14:03:00.000-04:00Thumbnails to me aren't that useful. Brainstorming...Thumbnails to me aren't that useful. Brainstorming and getting your ideas down on paper is (not necessarily drawing out every detail, especially when you can use that time to manipulate and mess with layouts on the computer.) <BR/><BR/>They're also easier to do as you go along. When you're messing with ideas on the computer, if you wonder how certain elements can be laid out, you can draw a quickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-77355609517452272452008-03-20T03:19:00.000-04:002008-03-20T03:19:00.000-04:00THUMBNAILS!I have learned that they are unavoidabl...THUMBNAILS!I have learned that they are unavoidable, necessary and undeniably important to both the concept and design of any project. I tend to work in a quick style when I do thumbnails. I can understand the requirements to have a certain number of thumbnails because it is meant to force you to work quickly and effectively. Sometimes they are just annoying to deal with however. When I get sick Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-83522176388166442752008-03-19T23:56:00.000-04:002008-03-19T23:56:00.000-04:00Ask anyone and I'm sure they will complain about h...Ask anyone and I'm sure they will complain about how much they hate thumbnails. They aren't my favorite thing to do but I realize now that I'm thankful I've done them. Thumbnails are important because they help expand your ideas. I know I've tried to get right into the computer but then realized my ideas were not as wide as they would be if I started with thumbnails. I agree with a previous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-12036415656686605052008-03-19T22:54:00.000-04:002008-03-19T22:54:00.000-04:00I also agree with some of the other comments poste...I also agree with some of the other comments posted that thumbnails can be both annoying at times but necessary. Back in visual translation, as we all would probably agree, was the worst experience with thumbnails ever. However, it was a good starting point to learn the basics and branch off into our individual 'thumbnail' ways that we have today. Some people spend hours and sleepless nights on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-56513082270152556202008-03-19T22:02:00.000-04:002008-03-19T22:02:00.000-04:00Thumbnails are necessary for the best work you can...Thumbnails are necessary for the best work you can possibly create. I know that in school they seem tedious with some professors demanding that they be perfect in perfect little boxes. I think that as long as you are getting your ideas out in some form on paper before the computer, then you are just fine. There is no need to make tons of teeny masterpieces before the big finally. It’s so funny. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-38839595166299641492008-03-19T20:56:00.000-04:002008-03-19T20:56:00.000-04:00rather than sugarcoating the topic at hand, i will...rather than sugarcoating the topic at hand, i will just flat out say that i hate our thumbnail assignments. note the magic word here: assignments. thumbnails can be very effective, for <I>some</I> of us. for others, hopping on adobe illustrator is the way to begin.<BR/><BR/>ultimately, our final product is what matters (correct me if i’m wrong here). nobody looks at a logo / poster / header / Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-42927664163447958102008-03-19T20:18:00.000-04:002008-03-19T20:18:00.000-04:00When I don't have to show development for a projec...When I don't have to show development for a project, I still draw thumbnails first, even if they are too incoherent for anyone else to understand but me. I think what students really hate about thumbnails is meeting quotas when time is pressing and ideas have run dry. When this happens I like to flip through design books, run google image searches, anything to grant some inspiration. Sometimes I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-48079219037753153382008-03-19T19:46:00.000-04:002008-03-19T19:46:00.000-04:00I might be one of the very few, but I can honestly...I might be one of the very few, but I can honestly say that I don't mind doing thumbnails, especially if I have the time. There is something kind of exciting/relaxing to sit down with a marker pad, pen, pencil, and a cup of tea and just start cranking out ideas. It really is such a great time to explore because you can erase, alter, move and try things you wouldn't think of normally. Sometimes I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-60963212589863241092008-03-19T18:47:00.000-04:002008-03-19T18:47:00.000-04:00I don't enjoy doing thumbnails. I really think it'...I don't enjoy doing thumbnails. I really think it's because there's always a set number that we have to do. Sometimes instead of concentrating on coming up with ideas, we're more concerned about getting the required amount done. However, I think they're needed. Even if we didn't have to do them, I think we can all agree that we still would, we'd just do them our way. <BR/>Thumbnails are importantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-71333044464415042042008-03-19T18:29:00.000-04:002008-03-19T18:29:00.000-04:00I truly hate doing thumbnails, mainly because of t...I truly hate doing thumbnails, mainly because of the quantity i have to do for various projects. However, it is quite obvious that they help a lot for the beginning stages of a project but the number of thumbnails often distracts me form actually doing them. i end up focusing more so on the fact that i don't have enough ideas rather than thinking of ideas. Once i come up with an idea that i Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-91490285170843657882008-03-19T00:53:00.000-04:002008-03-19T00:53:00.000-04:00Thumbnails, oh thumbnails. I actually don't mind d...Thumbnails, oh thumbnails. I actually don't mind doing thumbnails because they are a good way to generate your ideas and step back from the computer. I feel that with doing thumbnails you put more thought into your design because you aren't restricted to a single idea at first and you are less likely to be influenced by other designs. They force you to use your head and come up with a more Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-25292199888331020512008-03-18T20:55:00.000-04:002008-03-18T20:55:00.000-04:00Take it from a fellow hater thumbnails do have the...Take it from a fellow hater thumbnails do have there place...<BR/><BR/>...in the trash can.<BR/><BR/>just kidding, many people do have a valid use for thumbnails. Most people wouldn't know where to start without jotting a couple ideas down first. If that is the way you are taught to generate you concepts have at it. In my own fairly limited experience I find that I don't generate my ideas very Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-79389234814012623522008-03-18T20:37:00.000-04:002008-03-18T20:37:00.000-04:00Although I hate doing thumbnails, I think thumbnai...Although I hate doing thumbnails, I think thumbnails are a great way to get started. All your thoughts and ideas can be sketched out on paper quick and pain free. They help get you on your way to that one great design. Also you can def. get more ideas on paper fast than you could on the computer. <BR/><BR/>For a project there is usually a set number of thumbnails to be done. I generally have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-91981523251631964432008-03-18T16:33:00.000-04:002008-03-18T16:33:00.000-04:00Although thumbnails are a pain, I do agree that th...Although thumbnails are a pain, I do agree that they are an important step in the idea generating process. However, when there is a set number of thumbnails to be done or a specific way of doing them, I think that could be just as distracting as the decisions that have to be made when going to the computer. My thumbnails are usually pretty rough and sketchy, just to get the initial idea across Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-63282993558293418842008-03-18T13:04:00.000-04:002008-03-18T13:04:00.000-04:00Prof. Bosler, in response to your little add-on at...Prof. Bosler, in response to your little add-on at the bottom, I don't think that because you did so many thumbs it makes you an "incompetent designer," I don't really see how anyone can think that. I do tons and tons of little sketches like that for all of my projects, the problem with that is a lot of the time (and I'm not naming anyone in particular here) those sketches I do can't be handed inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-87133090753506929242008-03-18T11:00:00.000-04:002008-03-18T11:00:00.000-04:00I must admit the first time we were told to do hun...I must admit the first time we were told to do hundreds of thumbnails I hated it! Visual Translation was like hell. It sounds awful but at first I really did not like it. Now I CAN NOT say that I love doing thumbnails but somtimes they do help me come up with ideas. What bothers me the most is having them confined in boxes and having a set quantity. I think when I am not told to do a certain Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-66999366131811408592008-03-17T16:12:00.000-04:002008-03-17T16:12:00.000-04:00Thumbnails.....that word I have come to despise. F...Thumbnails.....that word I have come to despise. For me thumbnails are a waste of my time and forces me to do extra work that I'm not gonna put effort into. For me thumbnails are a good idea, however when a certain amount are forced to be made when an idea can be conveyed in like 5 thumbs but the assignment is like 40, I think thats ridiculous. I know that hey generate more ideas and all but the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-80895558970743102762008-03-17T11:14:00.000-04:002008-03-17T11:14:00.000-04:00I agree with Andrea's comment. I usually have a ha...I agree with Andrea's comment. I usually have a handful of ideas at the start, and a few of them spawn some more, but after that, I just fizzle out. There's nothing much more frustrating than looking at what could be the perfect solution, then remembering you have to force out another dozen or two. It is true occasionally that one of those last few you push out will be a good one, but in my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-39170068414894885982008-03-17T11:01:00.000-04:002008-03-17T11:01:00.000-04:00Looking back on it, I'm glad I had to do all those...Looking back on it, I'm glad I had to do all those thumbnails because they taught me how to visualize a concept in my mind. There's a point that we should reach in which we first visualize the content and space and then make a quick sketch to see how it works in physical space. A goal for me is to become a "picture thinker", or to have the ability to visualize a project completely without puttingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-562076908216918846.post-71454040333672932532008-03-16T23:44:00.000-04:002008-03-16T23:44:00.000-04:00Thumbnails, where do I begin? Who knew they would ...Thumbnails, where do I begin? Who knew they would be such a necessary step in bringing to life all of the crazy designs we have made over the past 3(ish) years. And who knew we would be using them for the rest of our lives in everything we create. I guess it's not that surprising really. I don't really mind them, I suppose... It's like Kyle said, the assigned amount we have to do is a little bit Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com